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alcoAL

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« on: July 17, 2010, 10:53:40 AM »

I was wondering if someone could tell me what the long siding in Farmingdale is considered. It's the one on the north side of the mainline, running east of the station. Last year for the US Open the protect train was there with the water tank car. Lately some track equipment has been laid up there.

Is this a passing siding, freight siding or double ended siding?

What about the one along the old Republic station, or is that just the approach to the wye?

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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 02:31:25 PM »

Bob Emery's map of area

The siding just past the station is a double ended siding, looks like it was the lead for the Picone Brothers area. It is electrified, I've seen M1's (M3's?) laid up there for the open a few years back.

Further down the double track at the sight of the Republic Station (due east of 110) is the very end of the double track main, it ends shortly thereafter with an equilateral Y switch. Just past that is a standard switch to start the double ended siding (non-electrified) at what is now Coastal.

What I find curious is the switch for the start of the double ended siding kicks the track a double width away from the main, possible to avoid a signal stand there, then it bends back a standard separation.

Just always looked weird those days I used to ride past in the rail fan spot on the M3's.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2010, 03:15:26 PM »

Perhaps this new page of mine may help:
FARMINGDALE

http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/farmingdale/farmingdale.htm


PINELAWN: Ernie, that was the team track that went around the freight station located there. See below:

http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/pinelawn/pinelawn.htm



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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 12:03:07 AM »

Al,

It's basically just considered a siding.  There is no technical designation for it as other sidings have.  The LIRR has controlled sidings, double ended freight tracks and passing sidings.  The "Farm North Side Track" as it's officially considered is not categorized in either of the above.  Nowadays it is used for turning morning and evening peak trains that terminate in Farmingdale such as 2300/01 and 2350/51.  Like you said, it was used when the US Open was in Bethpage as a layup for equipment.  Before electrification and the introduction of Farm Interlocking, it was used when the freights would switch Price Industrial park.  They would cut their train away, secure it on the North Side track and go into the park to deliver or pick up cars.  The west end of the siding is protected by signals controlled by Divide and the east end is an electric lock switch, which is rarely used.  The North Side track towards the west end (the track that runs north of the westbound station platform) is used to lay up track equipment from time to time.  It's not equipped with third rail either.  Up until the mid 90s, the track used to run where the current station parking lot is, up to Secatogue Avenue.  Before that, it used to cross Secatogue and go to a consignee called Wagner Feeds.  From time to time, that track is still referred to as Wagner Feeds, but that's not what its officially called.  There also used to be a team yard with a freight house there, but that dates back to the 50s.  Even before the 50s, the freight house and team yard used to exist on the South side of the station where the Atlantic Avenue apartments are.  Hope this helps a little.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 12:25:57 AM »

Thanks for the info everyone. I got it now.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 09:22:18 AM »

Steve:

Ah, I see it has a little kick-out on the east end too. I meant on the went end before New Highway:

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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 12:22:55 PM »

Bob Emery's map of area

The siding just past the station is a double ended siding, looks like it was the lead for the Picone Brothers area. It is electrified, I've seen M1's (M3's?) laid up there for the open a few years back.

Further down the double track at the sight of the Republic Station (due east of 110) is the very end of the double track main, it ends shortly thereafter with an equilateral Y switch. Just past that is a standard switch to start the double ended siding (non-electrified) at what is now Coastal.

What I find curious is the switch for the start of the double ended siding kicks the track a double width away from the main, possible to avoid a signal stand there, then it bends back a standard separation.

Just always looked weird those days I used to ride past in the rail fan spot on the M3's.


I was under the impression that the siding is used for laying up MUs for the rush hr.  I don't see where it's a double ended siding
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2010, 01:36:25 PM »

The trains terminating at Farmingdale layup to change ends in the North Side Track. 

What was that freight business south of the main west of Rte 110? it's that failing structure, It has tracks going into it. Why can't NYAR/LIRR build a yard there?
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2010, 08:21:59 PM »

What was that freight business south of the main west of Rte 110? it's that failing structure, It has tracks going into it. Why can't NYAR/LIRR build a yard there?

It used to be Republic Aviation Corporation. Why NYAR doesn't build there I do not know.
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2010, 03:02:28 PM »

probably because someone else owns the property?
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2010, 05:50:48 PM »

A few things, I think the land is contaminated.  Also the MTA may own for future use of of Republic station when funding and the stars align.

I wish there was more pictures of LIRR servicing the Price Industrial Park. It was more or less a giant loop as was explained to me by a former LIRR freight conductor.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2010, 09:06:31 PM »

http://picasaweb.google.com/alsrelics/FarmingdalePriceParkwayRailroadRemnants?authkey=Gv1sRgCI614Ob0q-LVxwE&feat=directlink# Courtesy Al Castelli

http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/farmingdale/farmingdale.htm


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